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- From: TheAnalyst@Nfo.Org
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,alt.2600
- Subject: Re: Need info on virus source code
- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:23:21 GMT
- Organization: National Knowledge Network
- Message-ID: <4fh8uh$6lk@dfw.nkn.net>
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- 0@0.0 wrote:
-
- >TheAnalyst@Nfo.Org wrote:
-
- >>>>Is there any way to obtain virus source code?
- >>>If it's so easy, why do you need other peoples' source?
- >>Because other people's source has the "tricks of the trade". Special little
- >>tricks to avoid detection, even tricks that legitimate programmers can use to
- >>optimize their code. Had you ever bothered to look at real virus source you
- >>would know this.
-
- >"Tricks of the trade"? Like what? The documentation to any virus
- >scanner will probably get you started on your own "tricks of the
- >trade".
-
- Tricks of the trade like actual source of how to defeat a debugger or just
- little asm tricks of like combining several instrucions in one. Basically it
- teaches you the best ways to optimize your code.
-
- And with all due respect, how many av products come with detailed instrucions on
- how to optimize your code to a minimum of size and how EXACTLY to defeat a
- debugger (not necessarily debug). yes, you could ask in some programming group,
- but then you don't get all the extra tricks.
-
- >>For that guy who wants virus source. You need to use your brain. Asking for
- >>source will not lead to any serious replies, the underground doesn't give up its
- >>sources that easily, and anyone with viruses that isn't a part of the
- >>underground would sooner kill themselves than release a virus to someone they
- >>don't know. And then there are people like this guy who responded to you.
- >>Follow my sig and search for appropriate keywords.
-
- >Ooooooh, the "underground". Yeah man, you won't get any k-rad s1t3s
- >fr0m m3 d00d.
- >http://www.xcitement.com/virus
- >Try it.
- >If you need more, there are links.
-
- You are obviously a very sarcastic person. People who talk like "k-rad s1t3s
- fr0m m3 d00d" are usually immature morons with very few brain cells left. If
- you really think that is what the underground is like then you should try
- looking into it.
-
- The point is to get people who talk like "k-rad s1t3s fr0m m3 d00d" to actually
- think instead of just giving them information. If this person is not
- intelligent enough to use a search engine then they don't have enough knowledge
- to work with a virus (broad generalization). Why do you insist on contributing
- to a person's ignorance? You obviously have never been in the underground,
- unless you consider those AOL idiots that go around 7y91Ng L1k3 T815 to be the
- underground.
-
- If you will notice I told him to follow my sig and search for appropriate key
- words. In other words, use my sig so you can actually find what you want
- instead of again relying on someone else for help. He may want to find
- something else in the future. It has to do with "If you give a man a fish he
- eats for a day, if you teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime", not to
- mention he won't bug us with these requests anymore.
-
- You seem to be a person with a lot of stereotypes. I have been following your
- postings for some time now. Are you a "debunker"?
-
-
- --
- Why should I hide my domain? I am doing nothing illegal.
-
- NewBies, to find information go to:
- pubweb.nexor.co.uk/public/cusi/cusi.html
- pick a search engine, preferably Lycos
- and use common sense in the key words.
- Remember hackers don't need this kind of common sense help.
-
- NEVER post underground URLz or FTPz.
-
-